Duncan Campbell Death cert. help

[Anne H]

If the daughter "was present at death" would it make sense to add "later seen".

Also, could it have been a second marriage to a Mr. Paterson for the daughter where she might not have mentioned her maiden name. It's happened with a couple of mine with second marriages and no mention of a previous marriage and therefore no mention of her maiden name. Just a thought!

One more thought...if the Inspector of the Poor was involved, might there be a poorhouse application that might shed some light on family members and their husbands?

Regards,
Anne H

[LesleyB]

Hi Anne

My understanding of the situaiton so far is that at the time of death the daughter was present, but that the death was not reported at that time, but a month later and at that time was recorded by the registrar based on the info given by James Clark, the inspector of the Poor. If "later seen" is what it says, which it may not be, then my interpretation was that the Registrar himself had seen the daughter of the deceased, but not at the time of either the death or the reporting of the death.

Confused?? You will be....

Best wishes
Lesley

[Anne H]

Ahh! Thanks Lesley...that makes more sense!

Regards,
Anne H

[HeatherH]

Thanks all,
Lesley thats what I was thinking ( only I don't say it as well as you) Andrew I knew you would find the place and a map for me thanks mate.
No idea why ancestry has Duncan as Suman and couldn't get census from SP as its not availlable , however I came across someone who has seen the original at NRH and he assures me it is Duncan and not anything like suman.

This is Duncan in 1841,1851 and 1861

1841 census Drumalea Killean & Kilchenzie Argyll
Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
CAMPBELL Duncan M 55 Argyllshire
CAMPBELL Barbara F 55 Argyllshire
CAMPBELL Flora F 25 Argyllshire
CAMPBELL Catherine F 24 Argyllshire
CAMPBELL Misey F 20 Argyllshire
CAMPBELL Margaret F 18 Argyllshire
CAMPBELL Flora F 7 Argyllshire

1851 census North Drumaba Killean & Kilchenzie
Duncan Campbell Head M 70 Highway Lab Skye
Barbara Campbell Wife M 70 Highway Lab's wife Killean
Flora Campbell Dau U 36 Ag Lab Killean
Mirren Campbell Dau U 32 Ag Lab Killean
Flora Campbell Grand Dau U 16 Scholar Killean
Mary McCoag Grand Dau U 6 mo Campbellton

1861 census Tangy Glen Killean
Duncan Campbell Head W 85 Cottage Slly Argyll
Flora Campbell Dau U 52 Cottage Dau Killean
Flora Campbell Grand Dau U 25 Domestic Servant Killean
John McAllister Grandson U 13 Scholar Killean

Not sure of who the daughters married as yet I only started working on Duncan and his tribe a short while ago but from the grandkids on the census I am thinking not all the ladies may have married.
Certainly not something new in my lot.
Thanks everyone for your help,
Heather

[grannysrock]

At first glance it reads like Paterson , later seen would make sense , but I read the first letter as F . As a result, I wonder if it is fatuous or some other spelling of it , ie that the daughter was regarded as too 'feeble minded' to register a death ?
Apologies if I am insulting a member of your family here - perhaps the condition was only temporary due to grief !.

Sally

[nelmit]

At first glance it reads like Paterson , later seen would make sense , but I read the first letter as F . As a result, I wonder if it is fatuous or some other spelling of it , ie that the daughter was regarded as too 'feeble minded' to register a death ?
Apologies if I am insulting a member of your family here - perhaps the condition was only temporary due to grief !.

Sally

I'll go with that Sally.

So......when Duncan's daughter applied for poor relief and gave her particulars to the inspector - which would include telling him that her father was dead - he would have registered it himself as it hadn't been done.

I wonder who buried him then?

Regards,
Annette

[HeatherH]

Hi again,
1 of the reasons I was so excited at finding the cert was of course to see if his parents were on it. If the daughter was indeed "not quite with it" ( no insult taken granny) then that would explain the lack of detail very well. Its probably the aging Flora who we see on the 3 census. No offence to anyone who has decided not to marry , but whenever I come across a wee group of aging spinsters on my long losts census records my first thought is "What horrid features did they sport that they are all still at home?" I mean I have oodles of poor rellies who managed to marry so lack of money can't be it. And at a time when it was a woman's lifes ambition to wed and rear a family was it a big nose, a hairy chin, bulging eyes or worse and extra 1 right in the middle of her/ his forhead?
Strange the things we come up with in the wee hours after trolling the census for days looking for variations on the name Keir only to find Douglas ( family was listed on ancestry according to the mum returning to her maiden name after father passed on) or Middleton when looking for Haldane( that was a real tease as it turned out I had it all the time if I had only looked at the first names instead of looking for surnames.) But there you go. Or maybe it's only me in 1 of my stotious moments.
Thanks again,
Heather

[grannysrock]

...a hairy chin, bulging eyes or worse and extra 1 right in the middle of her/ his forhead? ...

Heather

That would be termed a "catch" in my tree ....

I wonder who buried him then?
nelmit

That's a worrying question indeed ...... erm perhaps it was Paterson after all ?

[HeatherH]

Looking at the "F" in Fourteenth, Farmer & Flora and then looking at the "P" in particulars I am leaning towards Fatuous. Next stop to see if the poor records for that time still exist.
Will keep you posted.
Heather

[HeatherH]

HI all,
Went looking and here's what I found....
"Here is a list of the surviving Kirk session records for this parish:


There are no known records"

All together now.... Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!!
Any ideas on where I may dig next?
Heather