Scottish certs 1855?.....

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Margaret
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Scottish certs 1855?.....

Post by Margaret » Tue Oct 04, 2005 1:03 am

Hi everyone
Hope this isnt a foolish question, :? but I notice on several occasions that folk talk about 1855 being a great year for Scottish folk doing family history. Can some kind soul please tell this Aussie lady, is she right in guessing that the certificates from this year have more info or another reason ???????????????
Many thanks
Cheers
Margaret
researching:: Morton, Miller, Finlay, McDonald, Bullock, Forrester. Glasgow and Kilmarnock areas

JustJean
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Post by JustJean » Tue Oct 04, 2005 1:47 am

Hello Margaret

Not a silly question at all....and I hope you some day find an 1855 record in your own searching just so you can have the joy of it!! (It's almost like Christmas! :D )

In the meantime you can learn what to expect and even view a sample on the Scotland's People website. Click on the button in the header above for Scotland's People....and then click on their home page where it says What's In the Database? and then notice a drop down list on the left. At the top click on Record Types & Examples...and then on the next page will be a long green list. If you click on SR Births, SR Marriage, or SR Death each will bring up a description and also you will notice a highlighted link to view a sample form of each type.

I hope I didn't confuse you 8-[ .....and I hope you learn everything you always wanted to know about 1855 but was afraid to ask.... :lol:

Best wishes
Jean

Davie
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Post by Davie » Tue Oct 04, 2005 2:27 am

Hi
here are a couple from my records
one from 1855 and one from 1849.
The information from 1855 is like Glasgow, "Miles Better"
http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/dauvit ... .dir=/6991

The 1855 wedding record from Cardross was the first one I had popped from SP, that actually gave the registration (or not) place and date of birth of the couple.
Awrabest
Davie

Margaret
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Post by Margaret » Tue Oct 04, 2005 6:12 am

Hi Davie, thanks for the photos of the certificate, I have just sent you a email and a copy of the DC from Bairds Row. Now I can only hope that one of my lot were born in 1855, what a great lot of info we get from them wish they had kept it up. Thanks to you to Jean for all your help you didnt confuse me at all. :o
All the best
Cheers
Margaret
researching:: Morton, Miller, Finlay, McDonald, Bullock, Forrester. Glasgow and Kilmarnock areas

MaryB
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Post by MaryB » Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:45 am

The best certificate I have ever bought is a death cert for 1928 in Australia. It tells you how long the person has been in Australia, all the childrens names and their ages, even the ones who have died, and what age they died at, spouse name and if she is desceased or alive - parents names
Black Isle - Beaton Bethune Campbell
Inverness - Mackintosh
Aberdeen - Mitchell Leslie
Ireland - Cosgrove McGuire
Southshields - Patterson/Pattieson Campbell Sloan
Greenock - Boyle McPhail Blair McKechnie Clark

DavidWW
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Post by DavidWW » Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:38 am

MaryB wrote:The best certificate I have ever bought is a death cert for 1928 in Australia. It tells you how long the person has been in Australia, all the childrens names and their ages, even the ones who have died, and what age they died at, spouse name and if she is desceased or alive - parents names
Mary

Which may or may not be connected with the fact that that's virtually identical with a Scottish death register entry from 1855 :!:

Although the Victorian state registration system predated the Scottish system by several years, the 1854 Act which introduced civil registration in Scotland in 1855 was something like the 7th or 8th Bill to be presented to parliament over the preceding two decades. In other words the authorities in Scotland had been addressing this subject long before 1855, and consulted widely with, among others, GRO in London, the (now Royal) Statistical Society in London, the major life insurance companies who had an obvious major actuarial interest, the French equivalent to GROS, and others. In other words, they must have had a clear idea of the format wished for the registers long before 1855.

A senior actuary in one of the London life insurance companies and an active member of the Statistical Society emigrated to Victoria in the late 1840s, and some time later, after the initial polical appointee had been dismissed, became the Registrar General for Victoria.

Coincidence :?: I don't really know, as, to date, I've been unable to find anything in Australian national archives in Canberra or state archives in Adelaide which proves the link, and I'm done considerable digging, albeit at a distance and often via third parties.

But it just has to be one heckuva coincidence that the contents of the Victorian BMDs, not just death records, virtually mirror those of Scotland's 1855 format, - and then there's the NZ similarity :!: :?:

David