OPR entry, puzzled.

[Susie Q]

Can someone explain, please, what this means:
22nd Dec, 1839. George Ogilvie and Jane Smith, both in this Parish two days.
There's nothing else, was this a reading of the banns ?

Cath

[Russell]

Hi Cath

If this was from the OPR Marriage entries then it would appear that they interpreted it as an entry relating to the posting/calling of Banns. I would hesitate before accepting it as such until I had further proof of an actual marriage. If they had children over the usual span of childbearing years Jane may have had a couple of late babies who would be born after 1855 and their birth entry would show whether or not a marriage actually took place. (It would be fabulous if one was an 1855 record. That would be proof positive with the extra detail 1855 certificates hold )
Have you looked for entries for George and Jane in their original parish(es) as there can sometimes be an entry there too which would add reinforcement to this entry.
If there is an LDS entry it would merely confirm the GROS supposition that Banns had been called.
Sometimes when a couple moved from their home parishes to another parish and were married there a letter might be issued by the Minister or Session Clerk of the home parish indicating their intention to marry and , If you like, giving a blessing on the marriage. Doesn't look like it happened in this case.

Russell

[Susie Q]

Hi Russel,
There IS an LDS entry, and it gives the marriage date as 22nd Dec., 1839. I must admit I've never been very confident with the LDS site. I'm not really sure how to use it.
I noticed that the format has changed, can't say that it's any easier for me, bit of a "thicko" with computers and such !

Cath

[deano]

Hello Susie Q,

It certainly looks a marriage date, by 1851. Jean Smith, is living in Kilwinning, Ayr, she is a widow, with two children, William Ogilvie, age 6 years, and George Ogilvie, aged 3 years, Jean's, widowed mother Jean Smith aged 66 years, born Ireland, is also living there.

Jean Smith, then marries John Mullan/Mullen, 07/March/1856. Kilwinning, Ayr. and by 1861. the family are living in Stevenston, Ayr. the two Ogilvie, boys are still living with Jean, her husband John Mullan, and their Mullan, children.

Regards,
Deano.

[StewL]

Hi all
I had a look at the 1839 marriage on IGI, it is an extract and not a submission.
I could find no children for them doing a parent search though.

[Susie Q]

Thank you, both for the information. That should prove very useful in my search
Cath

[Anne H]

The children might not be on the old IGI but sons John born 1840 and George born 1843, St. Quivox And Newton,​ Ayr,​ Scotland are on the new LDS site.

I'm not as keen on the new site but it certainly has a lot more records, so definitely not to be missed.

Regards,
Anne H

[deano]

Hello Susie Q,

Just in case you cannot match the family up here is the 1841 census address Whitletts Village, St. Quivox, Ayr.

George Ogilvie, M. age 20 years, Coal Miner, born Ireland,
Jane Ogilvie, F. age 20 years, born Ayr,
John Ogilvie, M. age 4 months, born Ayr.

George Ogilvie, above must have died sometime after George Ogilvie, Junior was conceived abt 1837/38.

George Junior, went on to marry Eliza Jane Simpson, 15/July/1867. High Church, Glasgow.

His second son John Mullan Ogilvie, was born 08/May/1873. High Church, Glasgow, this birth no doubt links the family through to George Ogilvie Junior's, step father John Mullan, who married his George's, natural mother Jane Smith.

Regards,
Deano.

[Susie Q]

Thank you, Deano. I appreciate you taking time to help. =D>
Regards
Cath x