Duncan Campbell Death cert. help

Post by **HeatherH** » Mon May 11, 2009 4:51 am

Hello everyone,
I have just uploaded a death cert. for Duncan Campbell...If I did it right ( which will be quite new for me

) you should be able to see it here...
http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... ?pos=-1844
The entry in the 7th column is new to me. My best guess is...
Particulars obtained by Mr. James Clark Inspector of poor residing at ( not quite sure) deceased daughter who was present at death being( again not quite sure)
Thanks for any suggestions,
Heather

Post by **AndrewP** » Mon May 11, 2009 6:32 am

Hi Heather,

The part I can help with is the place name in there - Tangy.

Current map showing Tangy.

All the best,

AndrewP

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Mon May 11, 2009 8:49 am

I see the second part as - deceased's daughter who was present at death being ?? Paterson. Although the P in Paterson looks awfy like the T in Tangy.

Regards,
Annette

speleobat2 · Post by **speleobat2** » Mon May 11, 2009 12:22 pm

Hi Heather,

The first letter of the daughter's name looks like a T to me, but there are no Tatersons living in Killean and Kilchenzie in 1861. There is a Paterson family though--Neil and Jean Paterson on the 1861 Census. Didn't see Duncan on that census, but I might have missed him. It's early here still!

Carol

Currie · Post by **Currie** » Mon May 11, 2009 2:40 pm

The death was registered a month after the event. It looks as if the Inspector has sent a letter or message to the Registrar and he’s entered the details into the register and just initialled underneath. Maybe he was getting poor relief at home and the Inspector didn’t get to hear of the death until he did his rounds, if that’s the way it worked.

When I first looked at it I thought the word might be a reason why the daughter, who was present at the death, couldn’t register the death herself. The wording looks a bit odd for it to be a name. Maybe the Registrar couldn’t read the Inspector’s handwriting.

Just guessing,
Alan

Post by **paddyscar** » Mon May 11, 2009 3:15 pm

Particulars obtained
from Mr. James Clark
Inspector of Peace re
siding at Tungy.
deceaseds daughter
who was present at
death being Paterson
W.C. (initials of William Conners, Registrar)
I'm not sure about the initial letter on the place name, which looks very much the same as the initial letter on Paterson. If it is Paterson, the initial letter is distinctly different from the first word in the column which is Particulars.

Frances

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Mon May 11, 2009 5:14 pm

nelmit wrote:I see the second part as - deceased's daughter who was present at death having ?? Paterson. Although the P in Paterson looks awfy like the T in Tangy.

Regards,
Annette

Looking at it again instead of 'being' I think it could be 'having'.

Could it be something like 'having later ....'?

I'm not too great at deciphering but just thought I'd throw that in.

I want to see 'having later died' but it's no' that.

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Mon May 11, 2009 5:52 pm

Could it possibly be:

...who was present at death being later seen.
but I'm not convinced.
The more I look the more elusive it gets...!! It looked like Paterson to me too at first, but I wonder if it is not a letter P, but an I or an L?

Other thoughts too were that it referred to the daughter being away/not able to be talked to or whatever, but really, I don't know what it says!

Best wishes
Lesley

Post by **SarahND** » Mon May 11, 2009 8:47 pm

LesleyB wrote:Could it possibly be:

...who was present at death being later seen.
but I'm not convinced.

Without reading Lesley's suggestion, I also came up with "Later seen"... if that makes it more likely!

Cheers,
Sarah

speleobat2 · Post by **speleobat2** » Mon May 11, 2009 10:51 pm

Hi all,

I'm not seeing a likely Campbell-Paterson marriage anywhere in Argyll either so maybe it is "later seen".

I've been using the children shown on Ancestry and you know how that goes. There could be others. Considering that on the 1851 Census Duncan has become Suman and one of his daughters is now Mirren. In 1841 she was Misey. Daughter Flora and granddaughter Flora are living with Duncan at Tangy Glen on the 1861 Census. In 1851, there is also grand daughter Mary McCoag and in 1861 grandson John McAllister.

Carol