Anyone here aquainted with Perth?

Lorna Allison · Post by **Lorna Allison** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:44 pm

Sorry Sheila and Rae

I have not been looking in regularly enough. It's just that the grass doesn't half grow just now

I photocopied the entries in the Mitchells' pre 1855 lists for Monzievaird and Comrie, before going to the churchyards for another TS member. Their lists do have the odd glitsch, understandably, but will be happy to give you the entries for the names you seek. Will have a look round as well.

Do you think maybe a pm to me with the names you are interested in would be the way forward?

There is a Taylor (ms) in Monzievaird and two Taylor graves in Comrie for a family who lived at Clathick, which is very close to Monzievaird graveyard, Rae.

There are lots of McLarens in Comrie Sheila.

Look forward to hearing from you both.

Lorna

Lorna Allison · Post by **Lorna Allison** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:05 am

Oh dear!

Sorry Mairi, my last post should have been addressed to YOU and Rae 8-[ .

By the way there is this "1791; by Geo Fergusson and w Catharine F. in Carse of Lennoch, fa Duncan, mo Janet MALISH tenants Fordy", in Comrie graveyard. Carse of Lennoch and Fordy both close to each other and half way between Comrie and Monzievaird.

Lorna

sheilajim · Post by **sheilajim** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:00 am

Hi Lorna

You mentioned Carse. On the OPR Birth Cert. that I have for William Kay/Key, it says: William Key and Catherine Mallish in Carse.. At least it looks like Carse to me. It could be Larse. It doesn't sayhe is born in Monivaird, so maybe this is the wrong William Key/Kay after all. He may only be baptized in Monivaird and born in Carse.

I am really embarrassed to ask this, but how is Kay pronounced in Scotland?

I have been pronouncing "Kay" as though it rhymed with SAY.
Then I remembered a family that I knew in Montreal named McKay, which rhymed with "EYE".

Among names Researching: Stirlingshire-McDonald, Dunn, Watson, Kay, Scott. Mull- McKinnon, Campbell. Renfrewshire- McDonald, McLaren, Boyd, Kennedy
Northern Ireland-Boyd, Kennedy, McKee

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:33 am

Hi Sheila

I am really embarrassed to ask this, but how is Kay pronounced in Scotland? I have been pronouncing "Kay" as though it rhymed with SAY.
Then I remembered a family that I knew in Montreal named McKay, which rhymed with "EYE".

You have it correctly above!

Best wishes
Lesley

Lorna Allison · Post by **Lorna Allison** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:44 pm

Hi Sheila

Two farms between Comrie and Monzievaird are called Carse of Lennoch and Carse of Trowan. I don't know of a village or parish called "Carse", although someone may correct me!

I haven't looked the word up but Carse is used quite a bit here, Tayside and Stirlingshire and I have always taken it to mean something like "good, rolling agricultural land" as opposed to hills and moorland.

Lesley has answered your question on "Kay, McKay". Devilish thing this spelling/pronunciation. On my visit to Wales last year I apologised beforehand when using a new placename in conversation.

Regards

Lorna

Post by **AndrewP** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:41 pm

Lorna Allison wrote:I haven't looked the word up but Carse is used quite a bit here, Tayside and Stirlingshire and I have always taken it to mean something like "good, rolling agricultural land" as opposed to hills and moorland.

Hi Lorna,

Top of the class.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carse

All the best,

AndrewP

Lorna Allison · Post by **Lorna Allison** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 11:22 pm

Hello All

Today I noted some MIs at Monzievaird, post 1855. I am not sure of the ethics re posting 1900s deaths. To be on the safe side - there are 3 graves of MALLIS' from 1902 to 1965 and mentioning Hosh Farm (off the road to Loch Turret and the Distillery).

Large memorial to McCALLUMS from 1848-1924 from Brea (sic) of Monivaird (sic).

Memorial to a farming family (McRostie) on which the farm of Carse of Lennoch and Findoglen St Fillans is mentioned followed by an entry giving only "Carse" and Findoglen. Dates on this last are from 1868 to 1946.

I have the full MIs if they are wanted.

Hi Rae: No McRaws, however I had a word today with a friend who was Session Clerk for many years at Crieff South and Monzievaird and he describes McRaw as an old Crieff name and remembers seeing several entries in the church Registers before they were sent off to Edinburgh, but the family was before his time. This church now closed and congregation absorbed into the Parish Church.

Regards

Lorna [/b][/u]

Rach · Post by **Rach** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 4:58 pm

Lorna Allison wrote:
Today I noted some MIs at Monzievaird, post 1855.
Large memorial to McCALLUMS from 1848-1924 from Brea (sic) of Monivaird (sic).
I have the full MIs if they are wanted.

Hi Rae: No McRaws, however I had a word today with a friend who was Session Clerk for many years at Crieff South and Monzievaird and he describes McRaw as an old Crieff name and remembers seeing several entries in the church Registers before they were sent off to Edinburgh, but the family was before his time. This church now closed and congregation absorbed into the Parish Church.

Thank you once again, Lorna, for looking into the McRaw side for me. I will see what I can do later on.
Wm Gould's 2nd wife was Ann McCallum but she died too early for the records you have noted. That's another side I will have to investigate further later in the summer!
Rae