Richard Geater b circa 1766.....

[Marilyn]

Geater, Richard/WilkinsonPhyllis
Looking for birth details. Richard m Phyllis at St Sepulchre London 1st March 1799 and fought at Trafalgar 6 yrs later. I need to know when they moved from Shoreditch to Aberdeen, and where they were born. Help, please!

[LesleyB]

Hi Marilyn
..and a warm welcome to Talking Scot

According to the Scotlands People web site there seem to be 6 people with the Geater surname in Aberdeen area in 1841, but It does not seem that either Richard or Phyllis were around from a preliminary search.
However, the 1841 would be likely just to mention they were born in England, if indeed they were.

Here is a summary of what is held for teh Geater name on Scotlands People:
Census 1841 6
Census 1851 0 [suspect mistranscriptions may be responsible for this year and 1861]
Census 1861 0
Census 1871 30
Census 1881 18
Census 1891 21
Census 1901 29
Old Parish Records Births & Christenings 1553 - 1854 4
Old Parish Records Banns & Marriages 1553 - 1854 5
Statutory Register Births 1855 - 1905 39
Statutory Register Marriages / Banns 1855 - 1930 28
Statutory Register Deaths 1855 - 1955 38
Wills & Testaments 1513 - 1901 0

Do you know of any children to this couple? The pattern of places in the children's births may give some clues as to when they moved north, perhaps?

Found this on the web:

....would like to hear from anyone who has information on or is descended from the family of Richard Geater (Messenger at Arms) and Phyllis Wilkinson, originally of Saint Leonards, Shoreditch, and, St. Mary Whitechapel, Stepney, London, England. Their children were Thomas (1801), Phyllis (1803), Sarah Ann (1805), Josephus (1812)and Frederick (1815). Frederick Geater was born in Stonehaven and m. Barbara Smith (b. 1823 of Peterhead, daughter of John Smith & Elizabeth Barclay, m. April 7, 1816 in Peterhead)on June 5, 1841 in St. Nicholas, Aberdeen. Frederick & Barbara lived at 45 Constitution St. Children of Frederick and Barbara were: John(1842), Barbara (1844), James (1845), William (1848), Barbara (1851), Frederick (1853), Ann (1855), Elizabeth (1857), David (1859), Richard (1862), Mary (1865). Frederick d. April 1, 1910 & Barbara d. November 9, 1909, both at 105 Constitution St. Barbara Geater(1851) m. Patrick Russel (b. 1851, son of Francis Russel and Elizabeth Easton m. February 4, 1832 & resided at 60 Queen St.)on June 15, 1872. Children were: Barbara Geater, Elizabeth, Francis (Frank), David Geater, Patrick, Mary, Emma Moncur, Frederick & John Strachan.......

at
http://genforum.com/geater/messages/1.html
if you have not already contacted this person it may be worth getting in touch.
& also a mention of a Geater here:
http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/1866/06/074cor.htm

Perhaps someone else may be able to come up with some other ideas - it certainly becomes more difficult once you are back in the 1700s, especially if a move from one country to another is involved.

Best wishes
Lesley

[momat]

I found this that looks a possible for Phyllis Wilkinson


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PHILLIS WILKINSON
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 18 SEP 1776 St Sepulchre, London, London, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JOHN WILKINSON Family
Mother: MARY

[Marilyn]

Thanks Maureen (if a bit late with the greeting. I haven't checked Talking Scot for a long time due to family commitments involving much travelling.
Thanks again; it looks very likely that this could be "my" Phillis.
Best wishes,
Marilyn

[Barbaramacq]

HI Marilyn,
its probably a bit of a long shot as I note you were last on this site in 2010 however I ve been trying to contact you with regards to Richard Geater - I read an article in the Aberdeen P&J with a link from Trafalgar to the Terror and I contacted Neil the journalist to ask if he could pass on my details to you but so far he has not responded so im not sure whether he was able to do that.
In the article you connected Richard Geater to the battle of Trafalgar and although i'm not ruling it out I was interested to see how the connection came about - there was a Richard Geater at Trafalgar but Im not sure if it was the same person.
My main reason for coming to that concolusion was that Josephus's wife Mary Ann visited the Aberdeen P&J offices in Aberdeen and they published an article on 12th June 1895 outlining her visit and the story she told. The article is still available in the P&J archives if you want to take a look. She not only outlines her husbands journey but also details her father in law Richard and the story behind his move to Aberdeen. She stated that Richard was in the Army (not the Navy) 9th Regiment of Foot, and that he fought at the Battle of Ostend, serving as manservant to Captain (or Colonel) Duff. They were taken prisoner and after their release Richard got work in a Warehouse, but Captain Duff arranged through his brother who had an Estate in Feteresso Aberdeen for Richard to come to Scotland with his family. Im fairly sure that if Richard was indeed at Trafalgar that Mary Ann would have said so. Id really like to talk to you about this if your interested, also just for info, I am from Josephus's brothers line, Frederick, he is burried in St Clements Aberdeen and his mother Phillis's death is also recorded in the parish register in December 1845.
I also have a very interesting article written by Richard Geater 12th April 1822 outlining his duties and charges if you'd like me to share.